I don't care who says what, THESE ARE NOT IFRARED!!!!! Maybe Jordan will drop them next year laso, but these are the Black & Varsity Red joints... These look very dope, but I gotta small prblem with them jumpman on the back cause he look a lil sick!! These are suppose to drop ealry next year, but there is some talk going around that theese may get moved up to this Christmas.. I guess we'll have to see.